My Favorite Mistake: Learning Without Blame in Business and Leadership
My Favorite Mistake is a podcast about learning without blame in business and leadership.
Despite the name, it’s not just my favorite mistake—it’s yours, it’s ours, and it’s what we can all learn from when things don’t go as planned.
Hosted by author and consultant Mark Graban, each episode features honest conversations with leaders, executives, entrepreneurs, and changemakers about a meaningful mistake they made—and what they learned after things went wrong. How they responded. How they improved. How they grew as leaders.
This isn’t a show about failure theater, gotcha moments, or simplistic “lessons learned.” It’s about how real people reflect, improve, and lead better in complex organizations—without scapegoating, shame, or hindsight bias.
What You’ll Hear
• Leadership and management mistakes that reshaped careers, teams, and organizations
• How teams and leaders learn without blaming individuals
• Insights about culture, systems, decision-making, and psychological safety
• Practical lessons drawn from real experience, not abstract theory
Guests come from business, healthcare, technology, sports, entertainment, government, and academia, sharing stories that reveal how learning actually happens.
The Perspective
Mark brings a systems-thinking lens grounded in Lean management, continuous improvement, and psychological safety. The focus is less on who messed up and more on what the system taught us.
Who This Podcast Is For
• Leaders and managers who want to learn from mistakes without blame
• Executives working to build healthier, more resilient cultures
• Professionals who believe improvement starts with reflection, not punishment
My Favorite Mistake: Learning Without Blame in Business and Leadership
Episodes

Wednesday Apr 07, 2021
Closing Her Psychology Practice To Take a Job: Dr. Neecie Moore
Wednesday Apr 07, 2021
Wednesday Apr 07, 2021
Owner of LCI Life Coaching Institute.
Show notes and links: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake56
My guest for Episode #56 is Dr. Neecie Moore, owner of LCI Life Coaching Institute.
For over 25 years Dr. Neecie has been inspiring, motivating and transforming audiences to align and connect with their destiny. Her vast experience as a successful business leader and an endless pursuit of advanced education, including a PhD in psychology, has her being heralded and celebrated by industry leaders like Tony Robbins, Dr. Patricia Love, and Dr. Harville Hendrix as a life coaching industry leader.
Dr. Neecie Moore“YOU deserve extraordinary, in your relationships, your finances, your endeavors. You deserve extraordinary peace of mind, peace in the valley, and an extraordinary piece of the action. YOU deserve extraordinary!”
Today, we talk about Dr. Neecie's “favorite mistake” of shutting down a practice she had built to take a job. Why did she immediately think that was a mistake? Why did people tell her it was a mistake to start a practice in the first place? What mistakes did she make with that first practice? What lessons did she learn and apply to later starting her second practice? We talk about that and:
The mistake of thinking she could help everybody
The importance of not just training, but also certifying, life coaches
The neuro psychology of change
Working with Tony Robbins
Her workshop: “Uncover your Extraordinary Power of Purpose”
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Sunday Apr 04, 2021
Being Defensive When Disagreeing With Marketing Clients: Swire Ho
Sunday Apr 04, 2021
Sunday Apr 04, 2021
Director of Sales & Marketing, Garuda Promo and Branding Solutions.
Show notes and links: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake55
My guest for Episode #55 of “the My Favorite Mistake” podcast is Swire Ho, Director of Sales & Marketing, Garuda Promo and Branding Solutions. He is also an Ambassador for the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce.
Born and raised in Hong Kong, Swire immigrated to Los Angeles in 1996. He trained as a sound engineer, working at recording studios and entertainment agencies before starting his own firm, Hellman Production, Inc, 2003 in Los Angeles.
Swire and his team successfully produced attractive, personalized DVD and CD cases and custom merchandise like T-shirts, earning a Score award in 2009, for small business success. His business eventually grew so popular, he sold it in 2013 to focus exclusively on the promotional product industry.
Swire is a proud SFG1 certified kettlebell instructor from #StrongFirst. He finds calmness through yoga, organic gardening, and enjoys being in nature.
Today, we talk about Swire's “favorite mistake” and topics and questions including:
How did he work to be a better listener and to not get defensive when disagreeing with clients?
How and why is he “constantly working on this”?
How did pivot during 2020 and the pandemic to branded masks and other products?
What are some common marketing and promotions mistakes?
Why don't you have to spend money to impress somebody?
Other social profiles:InstagramFacebookTwitter
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Thursday Apr 01, 2021
When Workplace Humor Goes Wrong: Pranks, Creativity, and Mistakes
Thursday Apr 01, 2021
Thursday Apr 01, 2021
Business humorist and the author of the new book Laughs On Wry: An Improviser's Memoir.
Show notes: https://ww.markgraban.com/mistake54
My guest for Episode #54 is Lisa David Olson a business humorist and the author of the new book Laughs On Wry: An Improviser's Memoir. She's an appropriate guest for today, given that it's the first day of National Humor Month.
Later this month (April 12th), my guest will be Art Bell — creator of the Comedy Central channel (which is celebrating its 30th anniversary today). I wish I had an entire month of funny guests… but there's two for you.
Lisa is a speaker, author, podcaster (“Stranger Connections“), and creative partner, who loves coffee and pranks! (the exclamation point is hers).
In today's episode, Lisa shares her “favorite mistake” of not writing her book earlier because she thought nobody would read it. I think my favorite mistake from the conversation was Lisa talking about a prank at her workplace, a police station, that I'm afraid could get her killed if she repeats it. We talk about those mistakes and topics including:
Why are you afraid of scaring the introverts?
Humor as her escape from a traumatic childhood
Helping businesses (and individuals) reignite their ideas… and their projects — how?
Humor as a connector
The risk of making mistakes when trying to use humor at work?
What are you doing for fun?
Humor as a gift vs something that can be developed?
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Sunday Mar 28, 2021
Not Understanding His Customers’ Feelings: Kent Billingsley
Sunday Mar 28, 2021
Sunday Mar 28, 2021
ENTREPRENEUR TO MILLIONAIRE: How to Build a Highly Profitable, Fast-Growth Company and Become Embarrassingly Rich Doing It.
Show notes: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake53
My guest for Episode #53 is Kent Billingsley, the author of the new book ENTREPRENEUR TO MILLIONAIRE: How to Build a Highly Profitable, Fast-Growth Company and Become Embarrassingly Rich Doing It. His friend Mark Cuban wrote the foreword.
Kent is the founder and president of the Revenue Growth® Company, LLC. He has become America’s Revenue Growth® Architect by helping thousands of entrepreneurs and small businesses (representing hundreds of thousands of employees) generate billions in new sales and revenue. He has personally designed, built, transformed, or turbocharged over 1,000 organizations in 36 countries. Billingsley has served in executive and leadership positions in several billion-dollar firms. Over nearly three decades, he has developed thought-leading content and trademarked programs helping thousands of entrepreneurs and their employees become millionaires and multimillionaires from their businesses.
In today's episode, Kent shares his “favorite mistake” about not fully understanding the “psychographics” of his customers. He talks about the need to move beyond understanding customer demographics to really understanding his buyer's feelings. We also discuss topics and questions including:
Why is it a mistake to think a company is a democracy?
Why is it a mistake to assume we are going back to the old normal instead of creating a new normal?
What was it like working for H. Ross Perot at EDS? Why was he “the greatest leader” he's “ever seen”? See his blog post about his passing.
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Wednesday Mar 24, 2021
Heather Zumarraga on Mistakes Men Make in the Workplace
Wednesday Mar 24, 2021
Wednesday Mar 24, 2021
Author of The Man's Guide to Corporate Culture: A Practical Guide to the New Normal and Relating to Female Coworkers in the Modern Workplace
Show notes and enter to win a signed copy of her book: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake52
My guest for Episode #52 is Heather Zumarraga, a work environment advisor, and President of Zuma Global LLC. She is a respected business commentator for channels including CNBC, Fox News, Fox Business News, and Newsmax, and she is now the author of the book The Man's Guide to Corporate Culture: A Practical Guide to the New Normal and Relating to Female Coworkers in the Modern Workplace.
In today's episode, Heather shares some reflections from her time working in the financial sector — why was she driven to be #1 in her role and what was the cost of that? We also talk a lot about workplace mistakes that men make… discussing topics such as:
Is it a mistake to try to treat everybody equally — being “gender blind” versus recognizing gender?
What are some mistakes that men make in attempts to be better allies?
Mistakes that men make when hiring or leading women?
Mistakes that men make working for women?
Having spent much of her career in testosterone-filled work environments, Heather wants to make sure that any male leader who wants to be part of the solution knows how to succeed and thrive in the inclusive modern workplace, as we go back to the office post-Covid. I think you'll enjoy the conversation.
#leadership #business
sexual harrassment
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Sunday Mar 21, 2021
Sunday Mar 21, 2021
Former pro football player, Certified Personal Trainer, and more...
Show notes: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake51
My guest for Episode #51 is Lenny Walls, a retired professional football player who played for four NFL teams and three teams in the Canadian Football League. He is now a San Antonio-based Certified Personal Trainer, entrepreneur, coach, mentor, and community leader.
I had the opportunity to meet Lenny when I was living in San Antonio and I did a number of personal training sessions with him, as I wrote about here. His businesses and community ventures include Walls Next Level Fitness, the Breaking Down Walls Foundation, Walls2Walls Coaching, and Walls2Walls Capital.
In today's episode, Lenny shares some reflections about his "favorite mistake" -- not the money-losing investments, but his self assessment that he lacked humility "during his most successful time in life." We talk about what Lenny learned from his NFL experience and that time and how he's applied it to his second career.
I had the chance to ask Lenny about his mindset on making very public mistakes on the field -- when do you take the time to learn and correct? We talk about his phrase "the hustle is entertainment" and we also chat about workout mistakes that many people (including myself) have made. All that and more...
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Wednesday Mar 17, 2021
Could She Fix a Bullying Narcissist?: Phyllis Quinlan, PhD, RN
Wednesday Mar 17, 2021
Wednesday Mar 17, 2021
Nurse executive, consulting CEO, author of Bringing Shadow Behavior into the Light of Day
Show notes: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake50
My guest for Episode #50 is Phyllis Quinlan, PhD, RN. She is a nurse executive and she is also the CEO of MFW Consultants to Professionals. Phyllis has a BSN in Nursing and a Ph.D. in Healthcare Administration.
She is the author of many books, including her latest, Bringing Shadow Behavior Into the Light of Day. It's available through Amazon Kindle or as a paperback through her website.
In today's episode, Phyllis shares a story, and deeper lessons and reflections, about her favorite mistake — taking on a colleague's bullying behavior on her own, thinking she could fix that person. She didn't go to HR or the executive team until it was too late. Phyllis talks about two types of bad behavior in the workplace: 1) The chronically clueless and unaware and 2) “Narcissists with a license.” The former group you can help, the latter cannot be helped.
Phyllis shares lessons about what leaders can and should do about bullies in the workplace. What happens with a leader (or even the CEO) is a bully? How can we bring ‘shadow behavior’ into the light of day and prevent a toxic work environment? What are some mistakes that leaders make in dealing with bullies? How can we better train managers to deal with this?
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Sunday Mar 14, 2021
Sunday Mar 14, 2021
Author of Big Breaches: Cybersecurity Lessons for Everyone
Show notes: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake49
My guest for Episode #49 is Neil Daswani, the author of the newly-released book, Big Breaches: Cybersecurity Lessons for Everyone.
Enter to win a free signed copy!
Neil is, among other things, a Co-Director of the Stanford Advanced Security Program, and he earned a PhD in computer science from Stanford. You can learn more about him on his website and his LinkedIn page. He's previously worked for companies including Google, Twitter, LifeLock, and Symantec.
In today's episode, Neil shares a “favorite mistake” story from his time in grad school, when he hacked into a grading system… not to change his grades, but because he could. Hear Neil describe the mistake in what he did AFTER getting into the system. Neil also shares knowledge and lessons about ethical hacking and responsible disclosure, the recent Solar Winds hack (and its impact and lessons learned — or should be learned), and the difference between “white hat” vs. “black hat” hackers?
We also get his thoughts on the classic hacking-themed movie from my childhood, “War Games” — should we stream it, or skip it??
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Wednesday Mar 10, 2021
Two Bosses Who Didn’t Like Each Other: Lori Baker-Schena
Wednesday Mar 10, 2021
Wednesday Mar 10, 2021
Co-founder of LeadHERship Consortium, LLC
Show notes: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake48
My guest for Episode #48 is Lori-Baker Schena, a professional speaker and leadership consultant based in Southern California. She has a PhD in organizational leadership and is a co-founder of the LeaderHERship Consortium.
She is currently on her third career. She was a journalist and PR person, then a professor for 25 years, now she's a coach and speaker.
In our episode today, Lori tells a story about her “favorite mistake,” related to staying too long in a role where she had two different bosses who not only didn't work together well — they didn't like each other! Lori regrets that it took too long for her to realize the situation was unworkable, but she learned from it.
We talk about how people react to bad situations, how we can “ask for what we need” and why that can be difficult, especially for women. How can you be in a situation where you love what you're doing at work. I mention Rich Sheridan and Menlo Innovations, the movie “Office Space,” and the Apple TV+ Plus “Ted Lasso.” Also, how can we get past "the shame of failure" and "pivot to positivity"?
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Sunday Mar 07, 2021
Mike Smerklo: Fear, Self-Doubt, and the Monkey in His Head
Sunday Mar 07, 2021
Sunday Mar 07, 2021
Managing director of Next Coast Ventures
Show notes: https://www.markgraban.com/mistake47
My guest for Episode #47 is Mike Smerklo. He is an entrepreneur, an investor, he’s the co-founder and managing director of Next Coast Ventures. He was one of the first employees at Loudcloud, recruited there by Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz.
in 2003, he purchased ServiceSource, a 30-person technology services startup in San Francisco. As CEO over the next 12 years, he grew the business into a successful 3,000-person publicly traded company with close to $300M in revenue.
Mike now shares his lessons in his book Mr. Monkey and Me: A Real Survival Guide for Entrepreneurs.
In today's episode, Mike shares favorite mistakes about giving into “fear, uncertainty, and doubt” and how he made the mistake of trying to be a blend of two very different leaders who were both role models to him. We also talk about why he wrote the book and the “SHAPE” formula — Self Awareness, Help, Authenticity, Persistence and Expectations.
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About Mark Graban
Mark Graban is an author, speaker, and consultant, whose latest book, The Mistakes That Make Us: Cultivating a Culture of Learning and Innovation, is available now.
He is also the author of the award-winning book Lean Hospitals: Improving Quality, Patient Safety, and Employee Engagement and others, including Measures of Success: React Less, Lead Better, Improve More.
He serves as a consultant through his company, Constancy, Inc, and is also a Senior Advisor for the technology company KaiNexus.
Mark hosts podcasts, including “Lean Blog Interviews” and “My Favorite Mistake.”
Education: B.S. in Industrial Engineering from Northwestern University; M.S. in Mechanical Engineering, and M.B.A. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology’s Leaders for Global Operations Program.









