Bonus: Ellen Patnaude's Updates (2 New Books and More)

We're joined again by Ellen Patnaude, who was a guest back in Episode 141 in February 2022.

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What's new for Ellen? She's the author of TWO books that have been released since then.

I Thought You Knew...: Confessions of a Chronic Assumer (and How You Can Stop Guessing Your Way Through Important Interactions)

AND

"You're Not Doing It Right": Loving My Mother Through An Unpredictable Caregiving Journey

She's also changed the name of her company to Patnaude Coaching. 

Thanks to Ellen for coming back to share with us in this quick conversation.